DETROIT, May 30 (Reuters) -
Ford Motor ( F ) and General Motors' ( GM ) chiefs on
Thursday offered clashing perspectives on the importance of
hybrid vehicles to their long-term strategic outlooks.
Ford CEO Jim Farley wants the industry to stop viewing
hybrid vehicles as only an interim solution to be used until
drivers are comfortable going fully electric, while GM CEO Mary
Barra does not view the technology as a longer-term play.
"We should stop talking about it as transitional
technology," Farley said of hybrids at a Bernstein conference.
"Many of our hybrids in the U.S. are now more profitable than
their non-hybrid equivalent," Farley added.
Plug-in hybrids, which include a small battery that can be
used for shorter distances, may not be relevant in a few years,
Farley said. However, extended-range hybrids are an important
technology for the industry's future, he said.
Hybrid vehicles, which bridge the divide between gas-powered
vehicles and EVs, have experienced a surge in demand over the
past year, prompting automakers to scale back on their drive to
go electric.
Barra said the Detroit automaker will have plug-in hybrids
starting in 2027, in response to steeper regulatory
requirements, but electric vehicles are where GM sees the market
heading.
"It's not the end game because it's not zero emission,"
Barra said of hybrids at the same conference. "We're trying to
be very smart about how we do that and how we deploy capital
there," she added.
Ford is aiming to quadruple hybrid sales over the next
several years, executives have said. It has pulled back on some
of its EV investments and pushed back production of EVs in
Canada and the U.S.
Separately, the Ford chief said on Thursday that EVs should
not be subsidized, and that automakers should be pushing to
profitably produce battery-powered models quickly.
"We believe that we have to get to that fitness level as
soon as possible," Farley said.
The Dearborn, Michigan company split its electric and
software division from its gas-engine operations in 2022, a move
that executives said would improve efficiency in both segments.
The automaker separately reports results for the wings of
its business following the restructuring.
Ford has forecast a loss of $5 billion to $5.5 billion in
its EV business this year after reporting a $4.7 billion loss in
2023.
'DEFINED BY CHINA'
Farley and other automotive executives have said software
and subscription services will be key profit drivers in the
future.
The Ford boss views autonomous driving technology as one of
the largest growth opportunities for the automaker.
Chinese competitors have been superior in their approach to
developing software and services that attract customers, Farley
said.
"The China consumer experience digitally is far beyond the
West," he said.
"You have to have great cost fitness and quality fitness to
even have the right to compete. And that's being defined not
here in the U.S. It's defined by China," he added.
Barra agreed that she has an eye on the top carmakers in
China, and GM must maintain strong brands, products and cost to
not fall behind them.
"I take the Chinese competitors, especially the top
ones, very seriously. We've got to continue to take cost out so
we can we can compete successfully," she said.
With such fierce competition overseas, Farley does not
believe all carmakers will survive. Pressure will be the
greatest on the all-EV brands that do not have gas-engine
offerings to buoy profits, he said.