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Jared Isaacman wants simultaneous missions to the moon and
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No contact with Elon Musk on how to run NASA, Isaacman
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Space Launch System, Orion capsule fastest way to get to
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By David Shepardson and Joey Roulette
WASHINGTON, April 9 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
nominee to lead NASA, entrepreneur Jared Isaacman, faced
questions from senators on Wednesday about his ties to Elon Musk
and how he would balance Trump's focus on reaching Mars with the
U.S. space agency's flagship moon program.
Isaacman, CEO of payment processing company Shift4 Payments ( FOUR )
, is a close partner of Elon Musk's SpaceX who has flown
to space twice as a private astronaut on the company's
spacecraft.
Isaacman would not answer a question about whether Musk was
in the room when Trump offered him the job of NASA
administrator.
The billionaire is in Washington for a confirmation hearing
before the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and
Transportation in which conflicting views on the moon and Mars
as a destination for U.S. astronauts were front and center.
If confirmed, Isaacman, 42, would oversee 18,000 employees
and a budget of roughly $25 billion, focused heavily on
returning astronauts to the moon's surface as part of a program
called Artemis. Trump started the program during his first term.
Senator Ted Cruz, whose state of Texas includes NASA's
Houston-based Johnson Space Center, pressed the nominee on his
moon program views, noting intense competition over the moon
with China, which aims to send its own astronauts there by 2030.
"I am hard pressed to think of a more catastrophic mistake
we could make in space than saying to Communist China, 'the moon
is yours. America will not lead,'" Cruz said in his opening
statement.
But the president and Musk, who spent $250 million in
support of Trump's presidential campaign and pushed for
Isaacman's nomination, have become fixated on Mars as a national
priority, raising questions about NASA's moon program for which
billions of dollars have been committed.
"I absolutely want to see us return to the Moon... we don't
have to make a binary decision of Moon versus Mars," Isaacman
said, adding that NASA can do simultaneous Moon and Mars
missions.
When asked if he supports NASA's Space Launch System rocket,
a multibillion dollar pillar of the moon program, Isaacman did
not offer explicit support, but said the rocket is part of the
current plan and that he wants to see the Artemis 2 crew get to
the moon. Isaacman has previously criticized SLS as
"outrageously expensive."
"I do believe it's the best and fastest way to get there,"
he later said of SLS and Orion, the multibillion dollar Lockheed
Martin ( LMT )-built crew capsule that sits atop SLS.
"I don't think it's the long term way to get to and from the
moon and to Mars with great frequency, but this is the plan we
have now and we've got to get this crew around the moon and the
follow on crew to land on the moon," he added.
Asked if he has had any contact with Musk on how he would
run NASA, Isaacman said "not at all," and that his loyalty is to
NASA, not contractors such as SpaceX - "they're the contractors,
NASA is the customer. They work for us, not the other way
around."
CONTRACTS WITH SPACEX
SpaceX has roughly $15 billion worth of NASA contracts,
offering the agency its only U.S. ride for astronauts to space
and a moon lander that will land crews on the moon later this
decade.
Isaacman also told senators he does not see why the
International Space Station, the 25-year-old science lab in
space, should be deorbited before the current plan of 2030 -
when NASA hopes to replace it with private space stations.
Musk has called for the station to be deorbited in 2027 to
focus on Mars, a surprise position that angered Cruz, according
to three people familiar with his thinking. SpaceX has a
contract to deorbit the ISS in 2030.
The four astronauts assigned to NASA's Artemis 2 mission -
which involves a fly-by of the moon in 2026 before a subsequent
moon landing mission - had front row seats in the hearing.
As a Musk ally and astronaut on novel SpaceX missions,
Isaacman would reinforce NASA's strategy of depending on private
companies for accessing space as a commercial service - a model
that threatens space programs held by established contractors
like Boeing ( BA ) and Northrop Grumman ( NOC ), the two main
builders of SLS.
Isaacman's background has won him the endorsement from a key
industry group representing more than 85 space companies as well
as 28 former astronauts.
While NASA's last two leaders were seasoned politicians who
proved effective in navigating the agency's funders in Congress,
Isaacman has no political experience, though during the hearing
he cast his unusual background as an advantage.