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Investors do not expect rapid, easy resolution on tariffs
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Markets recover ground after sharp tariff-fueled selloff
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Hopes high for increased clarity, but volatility fears
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US-China talks set to continue in Geneva on Sunday
By Suzanne McGee
May 10 (Reuters) - Investors are hopeful that U.S.-China
trade talks this weekend will cool a trade war between the
world's two largest economies and dispel some of the uncertainty
clouding financial markets, though few expect a major
breakthrough just yet.
The highly anticipated meeting in Switzerland could mark one of
the biggest developments since U.S. President Donald Trump
launched sweeping tariffs on April 2, which threw the global
trade landscape into chaos and set off extreme market
volatility.
"This is the mother of all negotiations," said Alejo
Czerwonko, chief investment officer, Emerging Markets Americas,
at UBS.
"There are hundreds of billions of dollars of trade on the
line, a 145% tariff on Chinese exports that amounts to some sort
of de facto embargo and grievances that extend well beyond
trade."
As of 1810 GMT on Saturday, the U.S.-China trade talks in
Geneva had adjourned for the day and were set to continue on
Sunday, a source familiar with the discussions told Reuters.
Recently, investors have expressed optimism that the
worst-case trade scenarios would not come to pass, and pointed
to signs of de-escalation between the U.S. and China as a reason
behind a rebound in equities.
But despite comments by Trump ahead of the talks suggesting a
lower level of Chinese tariffs, and a trade deal announced on
Thursday between the U.S. and Britain, many market participants
said they were not expecting major breakthroughs this weekend.
Rather, they confined themselves to hoping that nothing goes
wrong when the two sides come face-to-face for the first formal
round of what may be protracted negotiations.
"We're still doubtful that direct U.S.-China negotiations
will lead to a 'grand compromise'," said Thierry Wizman, global
FX and rates strategist at Macquarie, in a note to clients.
IMMEDIATE PACT SEEN AS UNLIKELY
Both the U.S. and China may want, or even need, to reach a
deal, said Liqian Ren, director of Modern Alpha at WisdomTree
Asset Management. At this early stage, however, there seems to
be little incentive to do so rapidly, she added.
"Each still wants to see how the other side copes with
negative headwinds," Ren said.
"Right now, the market is maybe a little bit too optimistic
in terms of what China and the U.S. can achieve and how fast
events will move."
Trade tensions between the two nations escalated last month,
when the U.S. boosted tariffs on all Chinese imports to a
whopping 145%, and China then raised levies on U.S. imports to
125%.
On Friday, comments by Trump that an 80% tariff on Chinese goods
"seems right" - making his first suggestion of a specific
alternative to the 145% levies - created some hope of progress
toward resolving the dispute.
The benchmark S&P 500 stock index has already erased the
steep losses seen in the immediate aftermath of the tariffs
announcement on April 2, although businesses continue to warn
investors of their impact, and the uncertainty they create, in
earnings-related comments.
The S&P 500 remains down about 8% from its February all-time
high and roughly 4% for the year.
Amid the tariff chaos, weak consumer sentiment surveys and other
"soft data" have raised concerns about U.S. growth, although
most economic data has indicated resilience in the economy.
EYEING MARKET VOLATILITY
Volatility, meanwhile, remains. The Cboe Volatility Index
, the options-based measure of investor anxiety, hovered
around 22 late on Friday - well below its recent closing high of
52.33 in early April, but above its longer-term median of 17.6.
One of the factors curbing that volatility so far has been
the high cost of establishing short positions betting on future
market declines, said WisdomTree's Ren.
"When a single (social media post) from the president can
make the market move 10%, it becomes very costly" to establish
those positions, Ren said. Equities soared on April 9 after
Trump paused many of the heftiest tariffs for 90 days.
Still, markets were poised for more volatility ahead, said
Matt Gertken, head of geopolitical strategy at BCA, a
macroeconomic investment research firm.
Gertken said the firm's best advice was to "sell on
strength."
Any signs of progress in the initial discussions would be
welcome, and allow China to devote more energy to its domestic
economic problems, said Andrew Mattock, a portfolio manager at
Matthews Asia.
"To talk about any other scenario, you end up with a
lose-lose outcome," he warned.
TOUGHEST DEAL TO NEGOTIATE
Despite the relatively fast agreement with Britain, Claudio
Irigoyen, head of global economics research at BofA Securities,
cautioned that other deals would be harder to hammer out, with
China being the toughest.
"I can see trade deals coming with India, Japan and maybe
South Korea, down the road," he said. "China - this is the most
complicated and will be the last one to come," in part because
the geopolitical relationship is entangled with the trade ties.
Investors are concerned that negative scenarios have not
been factored into markets.
"If we come out of Geneva with people using incendiary
language and strong disagreements, I don't think that's priced
in," said Czerwonko of UBS.
The market would probably be content with only modest signs
of progress, several investors said.
"We don't need happy talk," said Gertken.